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06-27-2008, 07:58 AM
shadok
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You will notice that The Schiller Institute "Heroes Page" link is now dead. They have deleted it.

The google cache is still there, though that should disappear fairly shortly.
Yes, this page was deleted indeed.
Too funny. This is not the first time the larouche morons have done that.
In August last year, they deleted the larouchein2004.net website altogether after I posted links to some embarrassing pages and quotes from their God.
http://www.factnet.org/discus/messages/4/33270.html
In Sept. same year, they managed to cancel (for "copyright" reasons) two videos on Youtube ("larouche was right" by Homer Simpson and Helga's impersonation by German comedian Kalkofes) whose links were posted and commented on this board.
http://www.factnet.org/discus/messages/4/33628.html
Anyway, the "Remembering Our Fallen Heroes" page is now accessible at http://laroucheplanet.info/pmwiki/pm....Fallenheroes1
It is a good initiative from laroucheplanet, not just to "annoy" these larouche zombies but more importantly to pay respect due to these ex-LCs who dedicated their lives for their ideals.
Censorship can't beat the internet.
Big Larouche Brother, your days are counted.


06-26-2008, 12:02 PM
eaglebeak
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Anonymous takes on La Rouche?

Is this the same Anonymous who is chasing the Scientologists?

http://lyndonlarouchewatch.blogspot.com

You're talking obits. I noticed this one at the Schiller Institute site.

http://www.schillerinstitute.org/bio...berg_obit.html

Re-writing history.

The obit you mention from the Schiller Institute site is the one I referred to in my post above, noting how Nancy is always ready to write whatever bilge is required at the moment. Her obituary for Ken Kronberg, which is the one you link to, is a classic exemplar of LaRouchean phoniness, considering what key roles Nancy and her closest associates played in Ken's death.

But much of the time they don't bother. One reason this obituary was written and given such a prominent place on all the websites and in the EIR, is because of the furor over Ken's death, and the distress it produced among members--a distress and a furor that continue inside the organization as well as outside, although underground inside the organization.

Which is one of the reasons the org's Political Police like to keep up with this message board and respond to it so swiftly--as in removing the Schiller Institute website's Fallen Heroes page.

The PoPo are alert, because they can never be quite sure who is talking to whom, and what the internal state of the group is--vanishingly small, but real killers (like deer ticks).


06-25-2008, 01:39 AM
eaglebeak
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The Schiller Institute "Fallen Heroes" page is an obscenity.

The first thing I noticed when I clicked on the link Shadok provided was, of course, that Ken Kronberg wasn't there at all, which struck me as deeply wicked, considering that he was the editor of Fidelio--you'd think they could have given him at least a name, dates, and a photo....

Then I noticed that neither Mark Sonnenblick nor Mark Burdman was there, and realized again how profoundly indifferent to human life is--not just LaRouche, but almost every Labor Committee member. And indifferent to friendship.

Martha Quinde's not there, but maybe that's because she was driven out of the org after taking a plea to avoid a Billington-length prison sentence in Virginia.

Strange--Legal drove Martha out, but Barbara Boyd haunted her deathbed. Somehow, as XLCR noted on this message board back in 2004, Barbara always manages to be in at the death. She was there for Denise's. And she was certainly there for Ken's.

As mentioned above, the only link now working is that for Marianna Wertz.

But consider this:

For Graham Lowry, one of Lyn's favorites, they don't give his full name and his dates are given as 194x-2003. They couldn't get his birthdate? HIs wife and one of his sons are still members, for heaven's sake!

Romie Schauerhammer (Wiesbaden) has her dates given as 194?-2003. Why? Her husband's still a member.

Steffi Pauls (Wiesbaden) has no picture, and her dates are (get this) 19??-2003.

Joni Ingalls' dates are given as 19??-199? They don't even know the year she died, for Pete's sake!

Linda Bach Robinson's dates are recorded as 199?-1998 (they can't even fix the typo).

Andy Klein--no dates, no picture. It's a wonder they remember his name.

Mike Gelber's dates are given as 19??-1993--but his wife's still a member, no? Or they could look it up in his legal papers.... Or the obituary that appeared in New Federalist at the time.

Carlos Cota Mesa, dates given as 19??-2002. Couldn't they get them from his widow? She's in Leesburg, now married to Will Wertz.

Allen Salisbury--dates given as 19??-1992. But his widow Pat is still in Leesburg, still a member....

Dick Sober--no photo, dates given as 19??-1979. They could have gotten both, though--from Fay Rosinsky, Dick's widow and now married to the infamous Dr. Ned Rosinsky.

No need to say more.

Oh, there is one more thing--

Lyn's dicta on the subject, which are thoughtfully printed below these abortive "bios":

...An older man, as I am, has witnessed the passing of the life of many who were either personal friends and collaborators, or simply persons of some notable merit in their time. From such repeated experience an older man should gain a refined sense of death as a warning to us of the way in which we must live the mortal life appointed to us. I can thus echo the Apostle Paul's I Corinthians 13 in my own way: I warn all, that truth, justice, and beauty, are the qualities we must defend at any personal price. If there were no other reason for such a latter policy, it would be that we must never break faith with those who have already expended their life in that work to which we are commonly devoted....

Lyndon LaRouche
February 24, 1998

  • *****************

Ha! Lyn every day breaks faith with those who have expended their lives--worse, he is one of the chief causes, sometimes the chief cause, of their deaths.

Have you known a greater hypocrite?


06-24-2008, 01:06 PM
borisbad
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In this page "Remembering Our Fallen Heroes" from the "schiller institute" website not only you will notice the names that are missing, but also that all the links to their "In memoriam" pages don't exist (if they were ever written)... except for Maria Wertz. Links to some of their pictures are missing too. Moreover, most often their date of birth and sometimes even their date of death are "unknown"! Some names are even misspelled!!! So much for their "remembered" heroes...
This in itself shows that, as a member, you are worth nothing. When "alive" your worth is about 5 bucks a day, when dead, not even a mention of your decades-long sacrifice to the cult of larouche.
LYM and LYMettes: think about it. This could be your fate.
Checking out the link Shadok posted really brings home how despicably low life is held in the "pro-life" LaRouche organization. I remembered Denise H. and Linda B. and certainly Mike Gelber and to think that all they rated was a photograph and perhaps the years of their births and deaths if lucky really shows how pathetic the organization is. After all, these people certainly had spouses and other people, the least these so-called memorializers could do is get the person's birth year right. But to do that little bit of work would tear people away from the task of saving the world. Maybe I'll give them the benefit of the doubt and think that there once was a link to some actual obituary, but I doubt it. Clearly Marianne's link remains because she was a protege of Helga.
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06-24-2008, 07:37 AM
shadok
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In this page "Remembering Our Fallen Heroes" from the "schiller institute" website not only you will notice the names that are missing, but also that all the links to their "In memoriam" pages don't exist (if they were ever written)... except for Maria Wertz. Links to some of their pictures are missing too. Moreover, most often their date of birth and sometimes even their date of death are "unknown"! Some names are even misspelled!!! So much for their "remembered" heroes...
This in itself shows that, as a member, you are worth nothing. When "alive" your worth is about 5 bucks a day, when dead, not even a mention of your decades-long sacrifice to the cult of larouche.
LYM and LYMettes: think about it. This could be your fate.

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