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Cult jumps the Shark

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The holiday season is coming to a close. It really is a season to me as once Thanksgiving arrives, most people will have family get togethers, work parties, religious services and gatherings, charity work, shopping for gifts for others. As you see, there is a lot going on and you are both enjoying and worrying about other people, not Lyn. When you go home you have parents, aunts and uncles, siblings, cousins and all sorts of people to interact with who do not need you to adore them.

Your emotions are usually towards others who you grew up with and trying to catch up with everything that has happened to them. Success and heartbreask all get rolled into a season. There may be music and TV shows to watch. I especially like the Peanuts specials on TV. You can still shed a tear when Linus speaks about the true meaning of Christmas. I can play my Nat King Cole CD over and over and neer get bored.

What you don't see or hear Linus doing on the TV is telling you that there will be a world wide economic crash on Christmas.

What happens when Christmas is over? The lights may stay on for a few days, but New Years is around the corner. Now you have an occasion to talk about plans and what to look forward to. The next year brings new things to do and plan for. What to do for Summer vacation. How did the past semester go and what is planned for the next one. What to do for graduation a few months away. Who is getting married or having kids. Which relative is getting sicker and needs a call or help.

I doubt that the highlites of New Years on TV is a morning announcement that the previous concrete world wide economic crash on Christmas has been postponed to New Years. We still have Bowl Games on TV and I have yet to see The World Wide Economic Collapse Bowl, brought to you by LPAC scheduled.

People say 'Happy New Years" to you intead of "Unhappy New Dark Ages" to you.

Is it any wonder current members that you find webcasts around certain holidays while end of the world wide economy seem to accelerate during cheerful holiday seasons? Why is Easter one of the most popular times of the year for assasination plots against Lyn and urgent financial mobes to save humanity?

Why are you all discouraged from spending time with your family or perhaps that ex member you knew for a few decades who is now a traitor during the holidays? When I was in the LC a few people in the local were heading home for the Holidays. You usually saw a discouraging snarl from the angry NC, a request to keep it very, very short and a goodbye that asks you to bring back some cash for depriving the LC of your income . Maybe you have to go home to get some cash and some new clothes since you are not quite getting paid properly as promised.

The internal feeling of "home" means something when it is cold outside and you come through the front door. This is your place where you do not have to deal with idiots and just do what you want. Privacy is something very valued when it is taken away as people in prison or certain jobs find out. What is the commulative effect when you keep a member going around the clock in one emergency after another, which never ends or is resolved and always revolves around raising a certain dollar figure so Lyn can save humanity since The New Dark Ages are just mere countable moments from arriving. Maybe on New Years the cult can have a giant head of Lyn dropping down a pole and do a count down to a New Dark Ages.

It never ends and goes over and over and over to the point where 35 years has gone by and someone you knew who had a degree from a good school is card table shrining on Christmas eve. That kinda bothers me, but not the cult it seems .

This all leads us to the latest LPAC release about Molly Kronberg and several former members. By my guess, we have 2 NEC members, 2 NC members and a dozen or so people who are supposed to be the target of this.

But are they?

No, remember that whatever you read by the cult is to keep you in the cult, not us. We came to our senses and left in various time frames. Any outsider who reads the release would immediately come to the conclusion that this all crazy, and it is. But there is a method to the madness.

LCers and LYM members should be scared of what they are reading.

The doc attacks two NEC, two NC and several other members for what possible crime.... being in the LC!!!!!!!

The most effective critics of Lyn and the cult are members, not Dennis King or Chip Berlet or the ADL or the Washington Post or NBC or the Queen of England.

I have critiqued political parties, candidates, public officials, my contractors, health care and a lot of other things over the years. For the LC, I was not kidding about me being at the bottom of the barrel, a nobody.

Yet, why does a PAC which grosses over 7 MILLION dollars a year wish to devote so much in resources of time and money and manpower against a nobody and what are called "bitter losers"????

Well, I think it is because you members are the target, not us. There is protection in the First Ammendment which a Crony Lawyer can tell you.

You folks in the LC?LYM have ZERO protection as we will see a bit later.

I have to amend my idea of a future grad student studying this cult for their advanced degree. I wish to solicit the need for a philosophy teacher to use the cult as a model in their classroom of a totalitarian Bizarro World which can both pay homage and do a great leap forward from Kafka, Camus, Mao, Stalin and AMWAY.

Think about what is the crime that all of these members committed?

Their "crime" was just joining the LC/LYM since that is grounds to make you an enemy of the Bizarro State!!! Once you join, you are immediately a potential and actual enemy of the Bizarro State based on how the cult works and views members. Just check out the "Larouche/Schact Economic Model to see why that so called "Triple Curve" is aiming for your butt cheeks.

You do not exist while inside and are treated as expendable and when you do leave you are treated badly and expendable. This to me goes beyond what a typical totalitarian movement would do as even the USSR acknowledged the heroics of the people they sent to their death.

This is truly amazing because if you take every member mentioned and then add up their years of service, the collective work of people would be a few Centuries. What is the finale? No matter what you did, write, discover, print, distribute, raise money for or accomplish ultimately means squat in the cult.

This LPAC document is for the LYM to read and internalize.

There is no future in the org if you leave and no future if you stay since the number one goal is what?

The preservation of Lyn and the cult devotion . You just pay the shiping and handling

The whole thing to me is clearly written for members to become scared of so that when and if they see, smell or notice something not kosher, you must keep your mouth and mind shut.

If you stayed in college and not joined the cult, there would be a good chance that you would have graduated by now and moved on to some new career or endeavor. If you found a job or did something pretty interesting or of a charitable nature, as an alumni, you could be honored or mentioned as a proud graduate. The school would be proud of showing off where people who have been through the doors have ended up to recruit more students to enjoy their education.

Not in a cult folks! You are in Larouche U.

The cult must convince you that the outside world is one of pure fright and potential New Dark Ages, not patents, editing national publications of influence, Emmy awards, honors or arguing cases before the Supreme Court. Start a business, be a leading official in a major Union, advise NASA on space travel, do projects with Oliver Stone for SHOWTIME, get a PHD in literature, start a newspaper which makes money and has ads, teach, start a school, publish a book on classic literature like Paradise Lost , produce musical performances, edit, get a law degree, get a PHD in economics, is interpreted as being a bitter loser by this cult if you dare critique since you are not on your knees figuratively praising Lyn as the Alpha and the Omega.

How come none of this happened to members while IN the LC?

Because the subject of research and work was not Lyn. Lyn made this all very clear in the early 1980s after some people objected to him being on eery cover and in every article. You did not see the French Fusion magazine after they did the same thing in Europe.

Take the recent LYM work on NAWAPA. This is some good work in graphics and info. However, the ulitmate goal is not NAWAPA, but LYNAPA. Thus whatever hard work and sweat you put into this is all for naught as the goal put out to you is to promote LYN with whatever hook is in play at the time.

I would suggest to any LYM member that since most of you are still young that you check out what trade lobbyists can make for a living. You can alter your resume like many of us have done and find an intern job pretty easily if you can chase the Larouche ghost out of you. Get a law backround and you can look into full time lobbying from a wide variety of offices and companies.

When you joined, you gave up a lot of rights and are now a potential enemy of the Bizarro State.

What rights have you given up by being in a cult?

Well, supppose you are a female LYM member who has not been pulling in the money . You are called into the office and the older NC begins to ask you questions of why you are blocking. This leads to some interesting questions about your sexual past. Do this in a present company and you have been sexually harrassment. Do it in a cult and you have a cult leader who has something to talk about with others and use in a meeting to make you an example of. Be a guy and you may be told about the politics of faggotry for your shortcomings and lack of potency. Tough $hit on that when you leave and think about what just happened to you.

In fact, I would think about just how much the cult has found out about the LYM members over the years sine we have seen the Beyond Psych series brought back to life after decades of dormancy. Do you feel comfortable in such a creepy environment?

What can the cult say or print about any LCer or LYM member if they decide to leave now hmmmm?

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Originally Posted by "Bubble Boy" jabroni.

"No one buys your bitter nonsense Paul. Sorry." Originally Posted by ace No one buys your bitter nonsense Paul. Sorry.


100% correct bro. I have nothing to sell, no blog with advertisements to click or manuscripts being sent to publishers. Life is a lot easier that way. My exit counselor was very keen on ethics and always told me that as long as I did what was right for myself and others around me instead of the unethical demands of the people around me, life would eventually reward me. This strange pheonomena has happened to a lot of exlcers.

We need to talk about my exit counselor, but not now.

HH it is always a pleasure to read what you post because there usually is something mentioned which can click my memory about the LC. What I find over the years of reading what you find tell me that we have had a sort of shell game in the LC between Lyn and the members in the following way. On the outside I read Allen's book and then found that the LC version seemed more advanced and had the kicker of art and science thrown in along with saving humanity. However, once you are in does anyone among the general membership continue to read the outside conspiracy lit ? This is damn near impossible in the era of print when you life is basically 24/7 Larouche and no other person or org is worthy of being in the same breath as we are in saving humanity. Today, this may be a lot easier with the web, but that also is under the 24/7 watchdog of the cult which has evolved into a far more restrictive environment of the Bizarro World.

Take these paragraphs for example:

Quote: "The most interesting chapter for me was the one in which Allen used the claims of a former Polish defector named Michael Goleniewski who argued that when he was in Poland in the 1950s working for Polish intelligence he came across files showing that Kissinger had somehow been recruited into a Russian intelligence network in Germany under the code name BOR in the late 1940s.

While the Goleniewski story is one of the most fascinating and the most weeird cases in US intelligence history, Allen does not mention – nor for the purposes of his argument need he that Goleniewwski for a time was the “Imperial Grand Master” of the Shickshinny, Pennsylvania-based “Sovereign Order of Saint John of Jerusalem, Knights of Malta” headed by a strange con-man and Nazi sympathizer named Charles Thourot Pichel. Goleniewski based his claim to be grand master by stating that he was in reality the last remaining heir to the Romanov throne of Russia! ... "

The most interesting chapter for me was the one in which Allen used the claims of a former Polish defector named Michael Goleniewski who argued that when he was in Poland in the 1950s working for Polish intelligence he came across files showing that Kissinger had somehow been recruited into a Russian intelligence network in Germany under the code name BOR in the late 1940s.
While the Goleniewski story is one of the most fascinating and the most weird cases in US intelligence history, Allen does not mention   nor for the purposes of his argument need he that Goleniewskii for a time was the “Imperial Grand Master” of the Shickshinny, Pennsylvania-based “Sovereign Order of Saint John of Jerusalem, Knights of Malta” headed by a strange con-man and Nazi sympathizer named Charles Thourot Pichel. Goleniewski based his claim to be grand master by stating that he was in reality the last remaining heir to the Romanov throne of Russia! ...


Lyn on a few occasions did say that Kissinger was a KGB agent who was code named Bor. When we had conferences where Lyn was the feature, there usually were some of the security contacts that were invited to see him. To impress us a staffer would mention that we have these former spooks and secret agents who are so incredibly connected that all hell would break loose if some people knew that Lyn was giving them advice and directing affairs. Well, while mingling during a break you could overhear some of these guys just giggling when their LC escort left their side. I had no idea of the several million dollars which was paid out to these characters, but in retrospect I can safely guess why they were giggling about.

After you left the LC, the conspiracies and assasination plots grew like weeds on the lawn of a foreclosed house. I don't think that anyone could really take a good guess of the top of their head and be close. Among the biggest plotters against Lyn was The Knights of Malta, Order of Jerusalem. This was among the biggest plots run against Lyn because it could be used across the Globe, so you had to raise special money to keep Lyn alive no matter what part of the universe he was in. No matter where, there was a top secret plot.

This is something I just googled and found interesting.

http://www.redshift.com/~damason/lhreport/articles/roswell3.html

Quote:

"The darling of this Corso's "Knights" was a very strange man named Michael Goliniewsky, whose name pops up in most hitories of the CIA "mole-hunts" of the 1960s. Goliniewsky was a high-ranking Polish intelligence officer who sympathized with "the West," and began feeding information to the CIA. Apparently, his info was rather good at first. The Soviets became suspicious of him, so he had to scuttle off to America quickly.

It soon became apparent to the saner CIA analysts that Goliniewsky was, to put the matter bluntly, out of his mind. He began to claim that he was no less a personage than Prince Alexi, the Czar's son and rightful heir...! Goliniewsky never really explained how he ("Alexi") cured his internal bleeding, or the EXTERNAL bleeding he no doubt underwent at Ekaterinberg. Nor did he explain how the Prince somehow became a leader within the intelligence apparat of a Communist country. (You'd think Polish spooks would do a better background check...)

At any rate, Goliniewsky (like other defectors) caused much mischief by telling dark tales of KGB penetration of both the American and British intelligence services and governments. His claims were baseless, but for a while they did much harm. As is usually the case in these realms, anyone in a Western government's service who espoused anything less than a full-scale attack on the Soviet Union (never mind the nuclear consequences) was damned as a Soviet "penetration agent."

The CIA soon learned not to take Goliniewsky seriously. But his demented world-view fit right in with the ideas held by the Knights, Willoughby, Corso and co. So these "Knights" became the chief propagandists for Goliniewsky in the United States.

I've read a few of Goliniewsky's latter-day screeds -- he used to publish a rag called "Double Eagle." It was filled with wild, quasi-fascistic conspiracy theories, which usually had to do with occult powers driving the inexorable Communist drive to world domination. A lot of what he wrote struck me as thinly-disguised anti-Semitism, making use of the usual euphemisms for "powerful Jews" (e.g., "the Dark Forces," the "International Bankers," and so on).

And THIS was the man Philip Corso once thought possessed the key to understanding world events... " ....

The darling of this Corso's "Knights" was a very strange man named Michael Goliniewsky, whose name pops up in most hitories of the CIA "mole-hunts" of the 1960s. Goliniewsky was a high-ranking Polish intelligence officer who sympathized with "the West," and began feeding information to the CIA. Apparently, his info was rather good at first. The Soviets became suspicious of him, so he had to scuttle off to America quickly.
It soon became apparent to the saner CIA analysts that Goliniewsky was, to put the matter bluntly, out of his mind. He began to claim that he was no less a personage than Prince Alexi, the Czar's son and rightful heir...! Goliniewsky never really explained how he ("Alexi") cured his internal bleeding, or the EXTERNAL bleeding he no doubt underwent at Ekaterinberg. Nor did he explain how the Prince somehow became a leader within the intelligence apparat of a Communist country. (You'd think Polish spooks would do a better background check...)
At any rate, Goliniewsky (like other defectors) caused much mischief by telling dark tales of KGB penetration of both the American and British intelligence services and governments. His claims were baseless, but for a while they did much harm. As is usually the case in these realms, anyone in a Western government's service who espoused anything less than a full-scale attack on the Soviet Union (never mind the nuclear consequences) was damned as a Soviet "penetration agent."
The CIA soon learned not to take Goliniewsky seriously. But his demented world-view fit right in with the ideas held by the Knights, Willoughby, Corso and co. So these "Knights" became the chief propagandists for Goliniewsky in the United States.
I've read a few of Goliniewsky's latter-day screeds -- he used to publish a rag called "Double Eagle." It was filled with wild, quasi-fascistic conspiracy theories, which usually had to do with occult powers driving the inexorable Communist drive to world domination. A lot of what he wrote struck me as thinly-disguised anti-Semitism, making use of the usual euphemisms for "powerful Jews" (e.g., "the Dark Forces," the "International Bankers," and so on).
And THIS was the man Philip Corso once thought possessed the key to understanding world events...


If you read this and if this is correct, then Lyn in the 1980s was a carbon copy of Goliniewsky without the Noble lineage. I swear that every briefing for years and years when Lyn ran for President was based on the KGB running the USA and taking over the world with the Russian Orthodox Church leading the procession. Everyone was a KGB agent or what we used to say "Agent of influence". However, the Knights of Malta were also in the lead in running assasination attempts on Lyn. Since the Russian Orthodox Church is connected to the Knights of Malta on their website, then you get a twofer this way.

I find that there is another item which sticks out to me in how Lyn deals with his delusions and rejections by people or groups. In my view, I find that most of what Lyn has written in attacking every author or expert or acknowledged leader in any field corresponds with his failure to either know it competently or be recognised as the true master of it by the masses. Inside the cult, the cheap parlor trick is to just attack all of the sources and people one way or the other and just proclaim that he has solved the hidden secrets or has advanced the field over an undisputed originator. It really is a very easy formula if you have a cult of sycophants who do not challenge what they know to be false or a general membership which is way too busy fighting imagined villains or raising money to feed to con artists.

Why should this just be limited to music, arts, science economics etc when you can also include the entire conspiracy industry which may have rejected him over the decades? What better way to get even with those conspiracy buffs who kicked sand in your face by outdoing them at their own game and then having some of them be part of a plot to assasinate you because you have outfoxed them all? What was told to us in the trenches was that Lyn was going to intellectually takeover the right wing and we were going to raise a ton of money from their lists with a better product. In the end, it was a farce as 13 million or so dollars was siphoned off to the various grifters who showed up with more elaborate plots each time.

Again, it was impossible for any basic member to know about the variuous conspiracy orgs out there and just how close what Lyn was peddling as his own was just a facimile of someone else, but with a Lyn twist. Today, I would suggest to anyone to just google up the conspiracy world and see how there is just one big universe of basic building blocks. The cult has to create the confines for members to stay in instead of wondering how calling Tea Party people for money and votes was AOK for a short period of time, and then Rand Paul became Hitler.

Hey LYM members, you just went through this process where that sector which rejected Lyn is now the recipient of Lyn's fury to keep you inside the cult instead of looking at a large section of the USA which won elections and can command non stop coverage and debate.

I have to give kudos to Doctor Webster Tarpley for creating his own cottage industry instead of starving for Lyn till he dies.

I see the same chain of events at work here with SDI.

Quote:

"McDonald was a leading figure inside both the John Birch Society and the Western Goals Foundation, which he headed. He was killed in the Soviet shoot-down of a KAL flight in 1983. According to his Wiki post, McDonald founded Western Goals with John Rees and General John Singlaub, both strong opponents of the Labor Committee. He frequently posted comments on what he considered left-wing subversive organizations in the CR. " McDonald was a leading figure inside both the John Birch Society and the Western Goals Foundation, which he headed. He was killed in the Soviet shoot-down of a KAL flight in 1983. According to his Wiki post, McDonald founded Western Goals with John Rees and General John Singlaub, both strong opponents of the Labor Committee. He frequently posted comments on what he considered left-wing subversive organizations in the CR.

McDonald was a leading figure inside both the John Birch Society and the Western Goals Foundation, which he headed. He was killed in the Soviet shoot-down of a KAL flight in 1983. According to his Wiki post, McDonald founded Western Goals with John Rees and General John Singlaub, both strong opponents of the Labor Committee. He frequently posted comments on what he considered left-wing subversive organizations in the CR.


In the late 1970s, General Singlaub was supposed to be one of Lyn's buddies. It went farther than that. We were told that there was this massive, but secret anger building against Carter and that this furor could result in a coup done by various military and intell people. The plot gets thicker and crazier because Lyn was now the leader of this grouping and in effect, we in the LC were part of something on par with the 1917 revolution with Lyn being hidden in a Maglev, on his way to DC. Well, maybe not on a Maglev but Amtrak. After Singlaub met with Lyn he came to some conclusions that everyone else does except jabronis and members, Lyn is nuts and out of his mind. Well, the wheels in Lyn's head start turning and whoola, Singlaub is now an enemy and part of a plot by the KGB to stop Lyn and the SDI. There is another facet of this which is that once Steve, Uwe and Moe were being interviewed as scientists, not a kook about SDI, Lyn exploded and soon FEF became a vanity project with the usual money monkey business and people leaving.

History does seem to repeat itself a lot in the cult, LYM members.

I keep on searching for the economic collapse on both Christmas and New Years and the demand for Lyn to lead the brigades.

Why do we not see Lyn being front page in every publication across the globe for his incredible Christmas pastime of world wide economic collapse and a New Dark Ages. Shees. Maybe Lyn will be featured in a Super Bowl commercial for All State insurance of mayhem and a New Dark Ages collapsing your car.

Boy do I feel free now. We have so much to cover with the LPAC release and we can take our sweet time doing it.

For the current members, you think that you are raising money around the clock to solve the word wide economic collapse of Christmas day. Lyn blabs about how trillions need to be written off or humanity will perish. WTF, just pick up a copy of Fortune magazine or Money magazine or Kiplingers and read that there has been several trillions in bad debt written off with more to come. Right now you could be picking up a nice condo dirt cheap if you had a job or could start investing in some great mutual funds to finance your later years or for the home. I did that when left during the 1987 stock market decline.

So what we have here is pretty simple to see by me and hopefully by members. You are members hard at work raising money to spend to silence former members who would rather see you have a better life instead of Lyn with your labor. When we see the end of year LPAC financial summary on the web, let's just take a peak at the cost of lawyers and the cost of meals in local Leesburg gastronomic establishments. That could have paid for your health care premiums.

You are all working very hard for someone else for basically nothing but a meal and a roof over your head. They had a name for that in the 1800s in the South.

Enjoy raising money as usual, NFL playoffs are more important this weekend to many.


http://www.factnet.org/vbforum/showpost.php?p=402272&postcount=5520

Cult jumps the shark


Quote:

Originally Posted by sancho

Cult nitwits are kept on the go 24/7 to accomplish ZERO but the massaging of some dimwit's massive ego.

And all his macho head-games?

Yes, bodysuit man.


Oh no Sancho bodysuit man does not fit. Something kept on nagging at me about where have I seen an angry, bile filled individual who is completely enclosed iin an insular world and can't seem to get out of it who hates everyone.

Once again TV came to the rescue and you and HH swapping Seinfeld episodes stuck to me. Well, after the Cotton Bowl last night I switched channels and what was on TV but a Seinfeld eposode with the famous Bubble Boy episode.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_SULQSL4Cd0

WTF a Bubble Boy with Larouche piped in for 100 % inhalation available for the whole audience to read on factnet.org for ever and ever?

Who could have asked for real live cultist to creep people out and have that come true?

Don't worry Bubble Boy we have so much to cover.

The only problem is that we may all be finished by the next world wide economic collapse which should be coming the next Federal Holiday /3 day weekend which is MLK day in a few weeks.

Remember, those holiday visits to your family give you an out from the cult when you have had enough. We will be showing you more highlites of the LPAC release and why it is written for you, not us. How come all this weekend you all will be raising money to pay for expensive lawyers to scare former members (bitter losers and failures) who did so much to for the LC instead of providing you with a safe work environment, non slave hours, health ins, living wages and a full tank of gas. I read in my local paper and in other papers that canvassers for many congressional and senate candidates are making 12 to 15 dollars an hour with the better people getting activist gigs with the major parties and associated orgs.

After some chores, NFL playoffs all weekend along with college basketball. See everyone Monday.


Here we have something which shows the real cult and how it could steal millions from the elderly supporters and not feel any remorse. This is from a cult Jabroni and reminds me of how we could laugh at supporters who asked for their money or interest to live on and very importatly, make THEM out to be the enemy for asking for that money we promised to repay.

""poe" if you asked me for a glass of water in Hell I would not hand you one. You're a right proper SOB (and I don't mean Son of a Bush).

We're not having a debate. "


http://www.factnet.org/vbforum/showpost.php?p=402571&postcount=5587

Cult Jumps the Shark ......again


Quote:

Originally Posted by Hermyle-oid Just make your quota. At least you aren't out in the cold, right?


Crad table shrines in LA would have warmer weather. That could be a sort of recruiting tool when you want to reshuffle the deck of the cult and replace the lost ones.

Welcome Hermyle-oid and RommelMcdonald.

Quote:

Originally Posted by RommelMcDOnald He can't suck you guys back into the cult, but he can waste your time and prevent any meaningful discussion from occurring. ...I don't know what kind of person would bother trolling a forum such as this. Unless he were a follower of LaRouche.


Exactly, however, what is written by the cult in any fasion is for the members, not us. That whole LPAC and EIR release is for older and current members as a reminder that if you are in , you stay quiet and if you leave, you stay quiet. We went through the same thing during the trials with the briefing where key components of testimony was kept from viewing and the fate of humanity depends on not paying attention to those people who call in and ask for their loan money.

Filling Lyn's head with money to fight a delusionary Knights of Malta/ Russian Orthodox takeover of the world was on par with filling Patton's tanks with fuel to fight the Nazis.

If I was card table shrining daily I would be angry too. Just look at how we are starting off 2011 so far. The cult ended 2010 with a Christmas world wide economic crash to end it all. That got put off to New Years. The next Federal Holiday is MLK day. So how does the cult ingeniusly get members to continue the circus? When you read Howie G's blog you see that it is a neat job to get the LYM members to spend THAT weekend building for the NEXT weekend webcast. The members get TWO weekends to deploy since you need the first holiday weekend to give out the Kinko flyers and carpet bag some appropriate demographics. The week is then spent calling and deploying for the Sat Webcast and get people to show up in the office. AFTER the webcast you can have the whole cult work around the clock to call the lists for money all weekend.

The webcast would have another announcement by Lyn of the next schedule world wide crash and to prevent The New Dark Ages which should hit around President's day in late Feb. The end of the 1st quarter will be March 31st which will be the next end of the economy as "all of the debts will come due and can not be paid under the existing international monetary system which needs to be replaced with the Larouche Monetary System." After that day comes and goes we have another big scare for the members which just coincides with Easter in April.

This stuff is rather comical to me, but not to a hard core cult oldtimer

This is what I think is going on. The remaining older LCers are divided into the haves and the have nots. Card table shrining and boiler rooms for a bunch of havenots, NEC and NC's along with a few get better accomodations. Over all, Lyn has depended on the entirety to fund his life and basically be a cult pension plan for himself.

To the newer members, be scared for now you are in the same position as the older LCers were for their lives. YOU have to be the elderly LCer cult retirement plan over the years you have moved from play time to full time money making to save humanity. Since this is a cult and not a business, there is no work contract from Leesburg HR to show you the fine print where the "Humanity" you are saving is really 60 plus year old LCers.

Among this you create a massive connecto fueled hallucination about all of the older members who left the LC and make them part of a massive British plot which you also have to raise money for.

Remember, what the cult releases is really for members to ponder. Every former member has to be an agent, has to be corrupt, has to be a failure, has to be a loser, has to be morally eeevil, has to be a pot smoker, has to be mentally weak, has to be part of a massive conspiracy to stop Lyn. You just fill in the blanks with whatever yoiu want.

Why should current LYM members be scared?

I am younger than most of the other LCers who post here. But I am about twice the age of most of the newer LYM members. Outsiders who read factnet.org or run into the cult use the word "creepy" a lot. Before you joined, most of you had facebook, myspace or some other way of being attached to your friends or classmates. You also probably posted on things of interest of you. After you joined, that all became eeeevil. However, do you think that the very creepy in the cult haven't been checking up on you? DO you really think that private meeting you had with your local NC or older leader is "private". Privacy does not exist in a cult. You have ZERO laws as far as I know of to protect you. You are "volunteers". Ever have the experience in a local meeting of someone else deciding to bring up something about you to "unblock" you when the organising (money) is bad? What happens when you ask questions about the past and why just about every member who joined has left before and during your adventures?

So when a LYM member reads about former members and the attacks on them for having what is called a life, that is to scare them, not us. I had a great time watching Auburn beat Oregon last night in the BCS Football championship last night. I have tons of interests and hobbies I enjoy. You aint gonna be reading much about me on LPAC from health care sites, auto reviews, audio video, train sites, science sites, travel sites and we can go on and on.

Hell I went through this when I was in when I would read an article about someone or something and later hear or read a real interview with the person or org and find that there was no relationship between our version given to US and what was for the general public. We had to make just about everyone or everything an enemy so that only Lyn was the master of the field or it was part of the oligarchy or whatever was the enemy at the time.

Right now, former members who spent more time than you in working for the org are the enemy. But don't worry, each of you has the potential to leave which is why you may find yourself in the same situation , so think about the creepy questions asked of you in the cult.

Parents of members who are in are not exempt from this. Don't think for a minute that the creep factor ends with your son or daughter. When a family member would call in for a Jewish member when I was in, care to guess how many times this was explained as part of the ADL enemy monster?

Why does the cult hate the success of former members? After all, wouldn't you wish to be proud of the success of a few thousand alumni?[/b]

This all has to do with you leaving a cult.

There are mental and physical restraints in a cult. We can go on later about how to find a job and how to physically leave a cult. We all did and everyone has a story about what they did and what they went into later as far as a school or careers. Very fascinating to see how people have done this.

The mental restraints are based on things like the cult and a cult leader having secret or inside knowledge that you will be missing out on. There is no secret knowledge. Every conspiracy site has their own secret recipe.Another restraint is guilt in how you leaving will allow some catastrophic event to occur. Read up on doomsday cults, Apocalypse cults, Y2K cults and other variations involving some very powerfull enemy being able to succeed because you didn't care enough. We used this on former members when I was in to raise money off of them. You just get them to feel inadequate somehow and you have a steady income stream you can call for some big event or when the market drops or something else in the news. You start off the conversation with "Lyn said this a few weeks ago and this was somehting that you used to organise against....."

In my view, the key issue is this:

If you decide to leave the cult, the cult creates this illusion for you that YOU are abandoning those fundamental reasons why you joined in the first place. The illusion is that those dreams of yours could only come to fruitation while in the cult since the outside world can't understand you. Those few times when you really enjoyed yourself can make you think that this is what your life is in a cult, instead of the pretty basic formula of making money for others and doing it for free.

When you leave the cult you are not leaving poverty, ruin, bad health, dangerous conditions, exploitation, incredible long hours, inadequate privacy or protection, criminal or unethical behaviour, loss of family and friends, loss of educational opportunities, making an ass of yourself over and over, replacing love of somehting with never ending hate of something, loss of potential retirement funding, loss of income etc. Oh no, you are losing your belief and support of ending sufferring, nuclear power or fusion, Mars space travel, NAWAPA, war, arts, literature, Edgar Allen Poe, history, science, economics music , geometry etc. You can take the same forumula and just put in the Bible, Koran or whatever .

So why does a cult have to slam former members as part of a massive conspiracy?

Because when we take a close look at dozens of former members we find that AFTER they abandoned the cult, they were able to persue their original and added interests to whatever level THEY decided to do. While in the cult all of the subjects I described, and there are others I am forgeting, ALL MUST REVOLVE AROUND LYN.

You in turn revolve around a card table shrine or a boiler room telephone.

-This is what F's you up in the cult and why we find Zubrin in the White House meeting about Space Travel and rocket design and not a f'n card table shrine with a picture of a rocket and Lyn.

-That is why we find a member who is an incredible teacher of English for advanced studies who has written a very respected book about Milton instead of falling asleep in a midnight class in a smelly office.

-That is why we find several members who are bonafide economists with PHDs who really advise previous administration policies and write books which are text books and sell.

-That is why we have former National Office sector people who are recognised experts, can interview big players and have columns or newsletters people actually buy and use.

-That is why we have people who can make good money advising investment firms about capital instead of predicting crashes around every Federal and local Holiday.

-That is why we have so many people who have entered education and the healing sciences to help the young and the old instead of trying to have them join a cult or sign away their life savings.

-That is why we have people who became lawyers and have argued cases before the Supreme Court instead of arguing like a fool in front of a court house.

Not everyone is like this but I would ask a fundamental question of whether their lives are better AFTER leaving the cult or when they were in.

The way the cult is designed is that by having Lyn as the center of everything, it is designed to fail as any reasonable idea will be devastated by the lunacy. Over 330 million dollars has been spent on this and we still have NCs telling you "we are building a movement..." So if you have an interest and want to persue that, you will NOT be abandoning that when you leave the cult. You will be abandoning a lot of lunacy and things which can harm you though.

You have two things going for you in the cult, a talent to do something and nothing to lose by leaving. It is very important that the idea that you can not only persue your dreams and ambitions of doing well outside of a cult, you can also make a buck and be somewhere else in 25 or 30 years instead of at a card table shrine. We have people who have recently left who are having the time of their lives in their interests.

When I read this by our Bubble Boy:

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You went from translating Marie Curie to RAW?

This is for the members to be scared of , not me

BTW, both parties had their candidates on that show for elecetions which reaches 5.1 to 6.5 million viewers and generated tons of coverage on other shows. But those are just facts.


I went beyond that and retuned to school and earned a degree to use radiation. By my math, over 136,000 people have been treated based on my work . I have an outstanding history or letters from patients and employers which mean a lot more than this creep show cult. For several years I have supported my trade assn with suggestions and lobbying on health care, health standards, working conditions and adopting state of the art technology. I have lobbied Congressional and Senate offices for various bills and do not get thrown out of their offices. I seem to get invited to their campaign events. My retirement plans are based on having a good time instead of having to rely on young LYM members to support me. I spread travel brochures on a card table , next to the drinks instead Kinko lunacy on a card table shrine.

No wonder older members blow their top about this site, larouchplanet,info and others.

LYM members , to the other angry member who blew their life supporting Lyn, you are a mealticket for them

Larouche Mania 2011

-How come it always leads to a card table shrine in the cold? 'Cause that is how it is designed, freezing in the cold, with no one and next to the fire plug the dogs pee on.

Wild Art: Supporters of the LaRouche Movement spark dialogue with Obama-Hitler posters

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Wild Art: Supporters of the LaRouche Movement spark dialogue with Obama-Hitler posters By Anne-Marije Rook 2011-01-10 Lyndon LaRouche supporters were active on the corner of Market Street and 22nd Ave N today, sparking discussions as well as some choice words from those passing by.

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From personal experience, two suggestions to the editor of The Ballard News Tribune:

1. Calmly and politely ask those people to name a single similarity between Barak Obama and Adolph Hitler, either as a person or as a Chief of State.

2. Calmly ask yourself why you're paying any attention to them at all, either as a journalist or as a citizen.

Mark Dublin

Leitmotif 5 minutes ago in reply to Mark Dublin

I think one should keep track of them - just like one keeps track of a rattlesnake.

Giving them credibility or a sense of it is a huge mistake. Sort of like "what if they gave a war and no one came?

Dan Bentler


Chator take a look here at the carpetbegging.

LaRouche supporters stage public demonstrations in Holyoke, Easthampton to defend Palin and compare Obama with Hitler

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LaRouche supporters stage public demonstrations in Holyoke, Easthampton to defend Palin and compare Obama with Hitler Published: Monday, January 10, 2011, 5:41 PM Updated: Tuesday, January 11, 2011, 7:49 AM By Patrick Johnson, The Republican Follow

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Supporters of perennial fringe presidential candidate Lyndon LaRouche staged separate public demonstrations Monday afternoon in Holyoke and Easthampton to defend Sarah Palin and to compare President Obama to Adolph Hitler.

The Daily Hampshire Gazette reported that two men holding posters of President Obama defaced with a Hitler mustache stood in front of Easthampton Savings Bank for a short while.

After the bank reportedly complained, the police asked the pair to move along, and the two men relocated to the nearby town common where they were greeted with a mix of cheers and jeers.

The Gazette reported neither man would give his name, but identified themselves with the Larouche Political Action Committee.

They handed out fliers defending Palin against those who charge the fiery rhetoric used by her and conservative talk-radio hosts contributed to Saturday’s shooting in Tuscan, Ariz. that killed six and left 14 wounded including Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords. “Anyone who attacks Sarah Palin in implicitly pro-Hitler.”

Meanwhile, WWLP reported that a different set of Larouche supporters put on a similar demonstration in front of the main post office in Holyoke. Each carried the same signs of Obama with a Hitler mustache, and handed out fliers that declared “Kick the Nazi out!”

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trumphman January 10, 2011 at 7:02PM Follow

Lyndon who? Isn't that a girl's name?

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sentry119 January 10, 2011 at 7:07PM Follow

Just what we need, another pair of nutburgers with a side of fries.

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ThisMachineKillsFascists January 10, 2011 at 7:10PM Follow

LaRouche crawls out of the woodwork every so often to remind people what a flake he is.

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lee January 10, 2011 at 7:15PM Follow

although excentric, he does have a point this time

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ThisMachineKillsFascists January 10, 2011 at 7:29PM Follow

Eccentric is how it's spelled.

Ah, yes, right... Obama is like Hitler. Would you like to share any other banalities with us?

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macwhirr January 10, 2011 at 9:35PM Follow

It's very specific. Godwin's Law is irrelevant in this case. At the Nuremburg Trials, denying necessary medical care for whatever reason, even if you have a big deficit from bailing out banks, is a crime against humanity. Hitler launched the T-4 policy, and Obama's IPAB is a carbon copy. Look up Karl Brandt.

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ThisMachineKillsFascists January 11, 2011 at 8:47AM Follow

You know, when people hold up posters of Obama with a Hitler mustache, they aren't talking about healthcare bills.

Hitler is loathed by everyone except Nazi sympathizers for being a genocidal warmongering lunatic who got millions of people killed. If you want to go on making this astronomically huge leap in saying Obama is the same, be my guest, but don't expect any respect from me.

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trumphman January 10, 2011 at 7:17PM Follow

If he's comparing Obama to Hitler is he saying Obamas gay?

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maximuspaxio January 10, 2011 at 7:47PM Follow

Obama doesn't even have a moustache.

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fercryingoutloud January 10, 2011 at 8:33PM Follow

And Hitler hated cigarette smoking.

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maximuspaxio January 10, 2011 at 7:46PM Follow

"Supporters of perennial fringe presidential candidate Lyndon LaRouche staged separate public demonstrations Monday afternoon in Holyoke and Easthampton to defend Sarah Palin and to compare President Obama to Adolph Hitler."

What kind of illness doi have to have to say something so completly stupid as this? It should've compared Palin to Hitler, and Obama to the greatest president since JFK, Bill Clinton. Palins party stole 2.3 TRILLION dollars from us. Lets not forget that.

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trumphman January 10, 2011 at 7:51PM Follow

The greatest President since Kennedy? I think he's far better than the two Bushs, or Clinton, but I don't know about that.

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The1stRichard January 10, 2011 at 10:05PM Follow

Sarah Palin to Hitler, do you have any proof that Palin has any similar policy such as nationalized healthcare, a progressive income tax, attacks on rights of inheritance like the death tax, centralization of credit for such things as student loans, class warfare, support of the fed, centralization of the means of communication and transport in the hands of the State, nationalized schooling, establishment of union armies such as SEIU and such. If not the look at who is supporting the same policies as Hitler and stop your vitriol rhetoric.

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markopolo244 January 11, 2011 at 1:09AM Follow

You are "Almond Joy." Not ever "Mounds."

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ThisMachineKillsFascists January 11, 2011 at 9:27AM Follow

Whataloadacrap!

There are any number of examples that would fit those criteria, but the right wing chooses ADOLPH HITLER, who, as you studiously avoid mentioning, started the most devastating war in history along with the most coldly industrial genocide based on racial hatred the world ever saw.

This is your transparently partisan 'logic':

Hitler was socialist. Obama is socialist. Therefore, Obama is Hitler.

Bloody re-tar-diculous to the extreme.

shelflife2 January 10, 2011 at 8:04PM Follow

"9/12/2010 LaRouche Supporters Crash Taxpayer March EventOn September 12th, 2010 LaRouche supporters infiltrated the Taxpayer's March on Washington event, setting up Obama-as-Hitler signs calling for the president's impeachment. The signs advertised LaRouche's political action committee and signs encouraging people to vote for LaRouche were also present, although hidden under the supporters' table. After a non-violent confrontation with the event's organizers, the Capitol Police asked the LaRouche supporters to leave and they.." la rouche and his people are posers and only represent themselves. la rouche campaigned during the democrat primaryas a potential presidental candidate under the democrat mantle. they're just infiltrators

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ishkibibble January 10, 2011 at 11:52PM Follow

who ?

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charles lightoller January 11, 2011 at 12:01AM Follow

They are pretty good at Credit Identity Theft, too. Fast way to build up the campaign fund.

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Garp83 January 11, 2011 at 6:44AM Follow

I wrote an article on the LaRouse wingnuts in the '80's. They are indeed as daft as they come. What is ironic though is that the comparison of Obama to Hitler -- I mean how moronic could anyone be to even think that out loud -- has also been embraced by the TeaBaggers, which should demonstrate once and for all that they too comfortably live in wingnutville.

For fun:

Barack Obama - Either Doing His Best In One of The Most Difficult Times In American History, Or Hitler

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anti incomb January 11, 2011 at 8:50AM Follow

Is that wingnutville something like moonbatville?

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wmassvoice January 11, 2011 at 8:16AM Follow

Wow! They're out there. They're really out there!

Is there some kind of mental hospital release program being undertaken in the area where they're discharging a few "challenged" individuals every few days?

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dagger58 January 11, 2011 at 8:47AM Follow

0-Bama is the most divisive president since Abraham Lincoln. We have less than 2 years remaining in this greatest mistake ever made by the American public.

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ThisMachineKillsFascists January 11, 2011 at 9:20AM Follow

Obama did not divide the country. That had already been done by Karl Rove. Obama was already being called 'Hitler' by the time he was inaugurated.

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anti incomb January 11, 2011 at 12:45PM Follow

Your right,Obama did not divide the country,but he has done nothing to help the problem as promised.

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lajordan46 January 11, 2011 at 10:07AM Follow

Thanks, yet again, to the Springfield Republican for giving right-wing loonies a platform for getting their word out. What's wrong, there were no Klan rallies to cover? An effective and relevant paper chooses to cover current events that are newsworthy, not some silliness by a couple of instigators who are crying out for attention. This "event"is not an example of civilized political discourse.


-NJ Jabroni with same thing about Palin.

TO BLAME SARAH PALIN FOR THE SHOOTING OF REP. GIFFORDS IS A CRIME

-A blog comment about Lyn's devotion to Palin.

http://adamholland.blogspot.com/2011/01/and-conspiracy-mongering-continues.html

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I noted yesterday that the conspiracy nuts had already started spinning their complex webs, spreading lies about purported hidden hands behind the Giffords assassination attempt within minutes via Twitter and blog posts. I neglected that endless font of mad conspiracy theories: Lyndon LaRouche, the longtime presidential candidate and political cult leader. LaRouche, who is revered by his followers as a virtual prophet, has an implausible and impenetrably complex answer for every question. Here's LaRouche's authoritative version of the Giffords shooting, via the website of his political action committee


-That pesky web again.

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20110110025004AAKlaWt

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What does the LaRouche movement believe in?

Answers (4) by Tiger Woods' girl

LaRouche for Dictator!

by Golden

they believe in LaRouche, an ex convict.

by Yo que tú

They are still trying to figure that one out. 1 day ago Report Abuse

They, literally, believe in Lyndon LaRouche. That is there advocacy and in my humble opinion, they're all cookoo for cocopuffs


-The usual Huffington Post Jabroni and what is said about him.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/social/biznesschic/howard-dean-endorses-bill-daley-obama-aides_n_804627_72832051.html

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“He only knows 2 words: "Lyndon Larouche


My God this is fabulous! The cult has the mealtickets, er LYM first snuggle up to the Tea Party to get money. Then, Rand Paul is Hitler. Now, Sara Palin is the heroine. What do you think the odds are that Lyn has told the members that he has a secret back door to Palin , but she does not dare reveal it and Lyn is leading the pro development faction against Rand Paul's faction! Palin should be $hitting bricks if people decide to play the cult card in attacking her. Then again, if I was running the cult I would create this rumour to bring attention to myself and the cult.

The stuff writes itself and now deploys itself based on Federal and Local Holidays!


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